As we know, Erard is not only a person, but a piano factory with long and rich history. It was located in Paris, France, but also the London branch was very active and existed during many years.
The problem of Erard's numeration is that from the beginning (ca 1780) to 1808 Erard used the different numeration for every type of musical instruments he had produced. So, we have different numeration for square pianos, for grand pianos of old type, for grand pianos of new type etc. After 1808 Erard decided to standardize his numeration and used the numeration of square pianos - the main type of his production before 1808. Only Erard's harps continued to have their own numeration.
The Erard's factory in London has its own numeration, so it's important to determine where the piano was made.
Erard made his first grand piano in 1797 (the other sources give us the date "ca. 1790"). The first square piano - in 1777.
Legend:
The number(s) - the date (more or less exact) - the type of piano (when is known).
The earliest numbers of Erard's pianos are following:
Pianos "en forme de clavecin" (old model):
1-70 – 11 February 1798 – 14 January 1801
28 – 1800
55 – 1801
71-209 – 12 January 1802 – 24 August 1806
86 – 1802
133 – 1803
210-263 – January 1807 – December 1809
264-394 are not exist (= 1-131 of "new model")
Pianos "en forme de clavecin"(new model):
1-131 – 1810 – 13 September 1816
395-410 – 25 January 1816 – December 1817
411-447 – January 1818 – September 1819
Unified numbering:
1293-4869 – 1788-1802
1672 – ca 1789 Square piano
1987 – 1791 Square piano
2036 – ca 1791 Grand piano
2336 – 1791 Square piano
2851 – 1794
3979 – 1799
4831 – 1801
4870-6800 – 8 January 1802 – 29 July 1806
4871 – 1802 Square piano
5233 – 1802
6800-10580 – September 1806 – 3 Jan. 1819
6850 – 1806
7098-7114 – October 1807 Square piano
7250-7282 – Ferbuary / March 1808 Square piano
7488 – 1808 Square piano
7752 – ca 1809 Square piano
8414 – February 1812 Square piano
8598 – ca 1812 Square piano
8927 – ca 1813 Square piano
10581-10662 – December 1819-1820
10663-11109 are missing or not exist
11110-12038 – 1820-1822
11492 – ca 1822 Square piano
12039-12972 – 1823 to June 1830
12758 – 1827 G rand
12831 – ca 1828 G rand
12964 – ca 1833 (or before) Grand
13076 – 1832 G rand
13093 – ca 1828 G rand
13143 – ca 1832 G rand
13236 – 1834 Upright piano (pianino)
13279 – 1834 Upright
13317 – 1834 G rand
13334 – 1834 Square piano
13392 – 30.07.1836 Grand
13484 – 1837 G rand
13725 – March 1836
13783 – 1836 G rand
13975 – ca 1840 Square piano
14100 – 1838 G rand
14195 – 1838
14230 – 1838 G rand
14404 – 1828
14440 – 1838 G rand
14731 – 1838 G rand
14769 – 1840 or 1838 Square piano
14832 – 1840
14854 – 1839 G rand
14932 – 1840 G rand
15181 – 1841 G rand
15348 – 1843 G rand
15582 – 1843? Grand
15621 – 1843? Grand
15830 – 1843-44? Grand
16043 – ca 1841 Upright
16100 – 1843
16406 – 1843 G rand
16427 – 1844 Upright
19143 – ca 1846 G rand
19333 – 1847
19366 – 1845 Upright
19367 – 1846? Grand
19436 – 1847
19450 – 1845? Square piano
19458 – ca 1847 Upright
19582 – 1847
19769 – 1847 G rand
20293 – 1847
21815 – 1850
23784 – 1852? Grand
23981 – ca 1853 Upright
24155 – 1853 G rand
24381 – 1853 G rand piano-harmonium
24598 – 1853 G rand pedal piano
25186 – ca 1855 G rand
26606 – 1856 G rand
27367 – 1856 G rand
33678 – 1858 G rand
36314 – 1860 G rand
41481 – 1868
53450 – ca 1880
54126 – 1880
56532 – ca 1882
56650 – 1882
60320 – 1885
68004 – 1892
80496 – 1901
86356 – 1903 G rand
88251 – 1905 G rand
90785 – 1906 G rand
96708 – 1909 G rand
104210 – 1912 G rand
105489 – 1914 Upright
106631 – 1912 G rand
115004 – 1920 G rand
Pianos made by Erard's factory in London:
74 – ca 1830 Grand
177 – 1832 G rand
698 – 1840 G rand
1243 – ca 1840 G rand
2911 – 1852 G rand
4140 – ca 1853-55 G rand
4395 – ca 1855 G rand
5862 – ca 1858 Upright
5964 – 1856 G rand
6562 – 1860 G rand
7283 – ca 1861
7441 – 1861
10394 – 1867 G rand
14508 – ca 1875
Doubtful Erard pianos known in USA (no Erard? not exact numbers? not proper date?):
4474 – ca 1825? Cottage piano
7764 – ca 1828? Upright piano
If somebody have his remarks, or more numbers / dates, let me know please.
HI,
OdpowiedzUsuńMy name is Dave. I live in Houston, Texas, USA
I have an Erard piano made in London.
It's an upright studio piano, 7 octave.
The serial number is 19389.
I found a listing for London built Erards that date it around 1885.
Thanks, Dave Jones
Thank you Dave. I'll put your information on http://arspolonica.ocross.net/erard-serial-numbers/ - the main Erard's numeration page.
Usuńwhere can i find the serial number. i have an upright Erard..
OdpowiedzUsuńI have just taken possesion of an Erard (London) concert grand. #9238 is stamped in multiple places, including the pin block. #66213 is stamped somewhat "over" 9238 on the pin block in a different fasion. Then #19549 is stamped on the key action. Can you help me find the age and more information on this beauty!. Many Thanks, Jenny. highnote.nz@gmail.com
OdpowiedzUsuńI have just taken possesion of an Erard (London) concert grand. #9238 is stamped in multiple places, including the pin block. #66213 is stamped somewhat "over" 9238 on the pin block in a different fasion. Then #19549 is stamped on the key action. Can you help me find the age and more information on this beauty!. Many Thanks, Jenny. highnote.nz@gmail.com
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